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Bob
6/18/2002
23:17:42 |
 Subject: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I need to replace the engine in my 86 Ford Crewcab Dually, but rather than rebuilding the 460 Ford V8, I would like to convert the truck over to a diesel.
I am considering using a 6V53T DD or Perkins 100-6.
I know that the Cummins or the IH / Power Stroke would be easier conversion, but I always liked the sound of a Detiot pulling hard.
Between the IH and the Cummins I would go with the Cummins. I don't care much for the IH motor, havng driven comparable trucks from Ford and Dodge, I feel the Cummins is a better motor for my uses.
I understand there are a couple of companies making motor mounts for Ford Cummins Conversions. But I am familar enough with fabricating motor and trans mounts that I don't think that will be a big problem. I've been building Street Rods for a long time, and havefairly good welding and fabricating skills.
getting the DD in maybe because of the weight and size issues.
Is putting a Detriot into a Ford a reasonable swap, or should I stick with the Perkins or the Cummins.
I thought I could use a 6610 Road Ranger behind either the Detriot or the Perkins.
Any and all sugestions appreciated.
Thanks;
Bob
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Don
2/12/2003
10:20:00 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I recently changed a detroit 6.2 to a 350 in my 83 GMC. And let me tell you it wasnt fun. Make sure your wiring wont be a problem and youll have enough room. I personally think the detroit 6.2 is junk. I would go with the cummings series B2. The only thing with those I have han alot come through the shop for rear mains leaking. We are talking brand new trucks. best bet cummings.
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JIM
4/25/2003
10:41:46 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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6V53 IS GOING TO BE HEAVY,NOISY,LEAKY,DIRTY EMISSIONS PLUS OBSOLETE DESIGN.SEVERAL COMPANIES MAKE MOTOR MOUNT KITS FOR 5.9 CUMMINS TO FORD CONVERSIONS,IF YOU HAVE MANUAL TRANS YOU CAN USE NV 4500 (DODGE)TRANS WHICH IS A BETTER TRANS THAN ZF,HOWEVER ADAPTERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR FORD TRANS.
GOOD LUCK
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JIM
4/25/2003
11:02:38 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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FOLLOW UP ON LAST MESSAGE,GO TO www.fordcummins.com THEY HAVE COMPLETE KITS TO INSTALL 5.9 CUMMINS IN YOUR FORD
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Tim
6/15/2003
13:40:10 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Just as a note the 6.2 GM engine is just that "GENERAL MOTORS" not a Detroit diesel, they are two completely different companies, infact if you go to the Detroit web page you will find that Detroit is owned by Daimler Chrysler.
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Jon
8/23/2003
20:27:00 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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hey great idea! im doing hte same but to an 85 250 ( got the 95 nose though) but im using a 6v53 and an alison 5 speed automatic bought the whole deal for 300 $ radiator and everything. im gonna start the project this week! i know theyre leaky and loud and all that but its a screamin detroit what can i say!!! by the way what is now called a detroit diesel part of detroit diesel allison was once a GM diesel all of the 2 stroke screamin deamons are a GM design
keep them trucks a rollin!
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Off Road Red
8/28/2003
05:26:03 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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What about dropping a 5.9 Cummins into a 98 chev truck? Does anyone make a kit for it?
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Steve Grenwood
10/05/2003
07:47:32 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Hi,
I came across this site whilst looking on the net for a used Detroit V8 diesl engine. Could anyone help?
Be glad to hear from anyone out there who might know where I might be able to try to locate one. I'm based in Manchester in the UK. but hey, the worlds a small place yeh!
Thanks
Steve Greenwood
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JW
10/25/2003
22:51:10 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Auto world in Great Falls Montana does Chevy/ cummins conversions and they sell motor mounts for 88-2000, but it depends on what year your cummins is 89-93 12valve have two types of mounts, the 94-98.5 have a different one but it is the same as the 24 valve. FordCummins.com sells chevy kits as well, Good Luck
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Jake Larsen
10/28/2003
01:38:47 | swapping a 5.9 cummins into an 80 bronco
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This would be a dream for me. It will happen and time is not an issue. Just wondering realistically what needs to be done to get the job done right.
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Bob
10/28/2003
16:42:56 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Jake;
There are a couple of companies that make the motor mount kits for swapping the Cummings into full size ford pickups the big Bronco is the same chassis so they should work fine.
Look at Fordcummins.com, they should have almost all the hardware available.
You will need to swap the engine and trans, change the fuel tanks and lFuel lines,drive shaft, front springs, possibly bigger brakes on the friont end, and vacuum source for the power brake booster, speedo cable and lots of small stuff.
I planned on putting a vacuum pump on my F350 for vacuum for the power brakes, detriots do not develop much useable vacuum for a power booster. I'm not sure if that would be required with the Cummins. maybe some one on here knows. I am sure that the guys on Fordcummins.com will have a complete list of everything you need to change.
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Anonymous
10/29/2003
18:34:40 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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put the cummins in it
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rus wallden
11/09/2003
20:12:39 | need motor mount conversion info
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I took a really nice 351 out of a 1980 e250 van and installed it in a 1986 f150 i did not check to see if the mounts lined up before hand now its just sitting there as it does not line up at all any HELP!!
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rus wallden
11/09/2003
20:15:15 | need motor mount conversion info
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I took a really nice 351 out of a 1980 e250 van and installed it in a 1986 f150 i did not check to see if the mounts lined up before hand now its just sitting there as it does not line up at all any HELP!!
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rus wallden
11/09/2003
20:15:20 | need motor mount conversion info
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I took a really nice 351 out of a 1980 e250 van and installed it in a 1986 f150 i did not check to see if the mounts lined up before hand now its just sitting there as it does not line up at all any HELP!!
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Jon
11/09/2003
21:21:56 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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go to the parts store and order engine mounts for an 86 f-150 with a 351 windsor and theyll drop right in.
Jon
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GIL
11/12/2003
20:26:30 | RE: 89 FORD E-150
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Can I put a diesel motor in this van, any information would be apreciated.
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Allan
12/10/2003
20:55:53 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Go for the newer engines . The 5.9 cummins are are good weight power ratio ideal for light trucks.
what makes these engines lighter is they are designed to be disposable. they don't have clynder liners, alowing less block casting. I have a 93 gmc k-3500 with a 1000lb 5.9 cummins and a 5spd trany that adds another 300 lb and a np205 adding another 150 lb . I put lots of miles on and I do notice the front end wears out faster.
Also newer (long stroke) engines start easier in cooler weather and run cleaner and they don't need glow plugs.
I have a manifold heater in my cummins 5.9 but never did hook it up, and it starts down to -0 f
Detroit are attention getters when it comes to makeing noise and no one realy sees the oil leaks anyway . But everyone stares when on a cold day your in a wallmart parking lot with a can of either trying to get this thing started.
just my opinion good luck
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Anonymous
12/17/2003
11:47:11 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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i like the cummins but i would rather go with
the detroit cause those sound awsome and
they have a lot of power
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Dale K.
12/17/2003
14:04:02 | RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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For around $800 you can take a 180hp Cummins and make it a power house of just under 400hp..I did it. The place that has the conversions is :
www.fordcummins.com
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nick
12/27/2003
14:09:07 | Caterpillar in a ford
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I thought about putting a 3176b caterpillar in a 99 F-350 I know that this is a truck engine but i think it would fit. Wondering if any one tried anything this crazy. Would like some input.
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nick
12/27/2003
14:23:50 | Caterpillar in a ford
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I thought about putting a 3176b caterpillar in a 99 F-350 I know that this is a truck engine but i think it would fit. Wondering if any one tried anything this crazy. Would like some input.
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Greg Beaman
1/08/2004
10:20:13 | 1970 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed detroit diesel
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I have a project too! I have a step van that has been converted to a detroit 4-53 and was hoping to install it in my 70 pickup. Does anybody know about fuel economy that I might be able to achieve with a tall gear ratio? What about weight problems. This motor weighs about 1100 lbs. Will that be a problem for my stock dana 44 open knuckle? I have an eaton rear axle and imagine it could take just about any abuse I could give it. Any input?
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zoltan
1/14/2004 15:16:12
|  RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Gentlemen
With regards to converting an 80's Ford truck (or any other for that matter to Perkins or Cummins diesel I have this to offer:
- remove entire front clip (fenders, rad. support, etc.).
- accept the fact that you have to tunnel into the firewall for engine clearance.
- manufacture a body lift for much needed clearance of bellhousing and big ass transmission
- avoid factory overdrive transmissions, they don't withstand this kind of torque for long.
- consider heavy 4-spd. transmission with separate aftermarket overdrive such as U.S. Gear sells, or find 5-spd. Clark w/O.D. from medium duty truck.
- if you can find one, Spicer made cute little 3-speed auxilliary transmissions with under, direct and overdrive. Models 5531 and 5831 (I think) are what your looking for, letter deignation after the mod. no. determine the ratios, not all have overdrive. When I say "cute little" I mean they were used in highway tractors of the late 50's such as the Mack B61 and can be made to fit under one ton trucks if you want it bad enough and can handle two shifters in the cab.
- use the biggest clutch you can fit.
- I prefer the Perkins diesel based on farm tractor experience: full power (or close to it) 12-16+ hours a day, no problem for 6600 hours and counting. Have many Perkins on the farm, all problem free and easy enough to find.
- if you have to change axle ratio, try to use a G.M. 14 bolt full floating rear axle as it has a fully supported pinion unlike Dana 70 which can swallow its pinion, causing bad things to happen.
- try to use large U-joints when you make your driveshafts, if you can't, use the expensive kind the drag racers use.
Hope this helps someone.
Zoltan
 
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morgan
2/23/2004 07:20:06
| detriots diesel engine
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HELLO,
I WILL LIKE TO HAVE THE PRICE OF THE BELOW DETRIOT PARTS AND THE
AVAILBILITY IN STOCK.
OVERHAULING GASKET 23512685
OVERHAULING GASKET 23512680
LINER SEAL 8923729
INJECTOR 5228760
INJECTOR 5228900
PUMP 5122599
I WILL THEN ADVICE ON THE QUANTITY THAT IS NEEDED.
WAITING TO READ FROM YOU
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MWCummins
2/23/2004 18:48:33
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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why dont you get in touch with someone who specializes in detroit motors. This aint no parts store.
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John Bruyns
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4/15/2004 12:35:30
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Are there any Diesel conversion kits for the chevy analanche-----------please inform--prefer inline 6
Thanks ! John
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5/21/2004 14:41:37
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Ramon
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5/28/2004 18:45:31
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Diesel Doc. I have 1986 ford f350 daully crew cab with 6.9 international with 175 bhp how could I get more power and also do you know of anyone who sells interior parts need seats(front buckets, rear bench) and rear fenders for my daully I'm glad I came acroos your site
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Ramon
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5/28/2004 18:47:04
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Diesel Doc. I have 1986 ford f350 daully crew cab with 6.9 international with 175 bhp how could I get more power and also do you know of anyone who sells interior parts need seats(front buckets, rear bench) and rear fenders for my daully I'm glad I came acroos your site
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Cat diesel man
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6/26/2004 17:01:17
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I would go with the cummins over detroit.The best way to go is with a CATERPILLAR like I did. I have a 90 F-250 with a 3126B. It took some work but it was well worth the effort. I keep burning up transmissions though. Does anybody know of a smaller eaton trans that will fit? Or better yet how I can make this work in my 4x4?
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Mike
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7/16/2004 11:40:09
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I am looking for a conversion kit to put a perkins diesel in my 86 GMC. Also wondered about putting a JD diesel in. Any suggestions?
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tony chalklin
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8/15/2004 13:51:59
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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i have an f350 1989 and i need a bonnet wing radiator and a grill......can anybody out there help me
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Greg Goins
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8/23/2004 22:29:55
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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Could someone tell me if a 1986 Ford F250 Diesel 6.9 has a cam sensor and if so where is it located. I cannot keep truck running after it starts. Hoping it is not the injector pump.
Help!!! appreciate it!!
Greg Goins
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Screaming Jimmy
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9/22/2004 21:03:56
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I had a 1973 Ford F-350 with a 453 Detroit Diesel with the Ford Transmission in it. A hell of a conversion. I loved the sound, but I wasn't impressed about the lack of power and I had to watch EGT when I was pulling.
On the other hand have a big truck with a 6V53, beautiful engine. I wouldn't know much about the conversion, but that would be a dream to me to have a 6V53 in a 1 ton.
And I beg to differ with Allan, the sound of a Detroit starting in the cold is the most wonderful sound known to man. Just give it a whiff of ether, and it'll fire.
turn,turn,turn,roar...roar...roar...roar...roar...roar...roar...roar...roar!
That's why they call it a screaming jimmy!
When it stops leaking, it's out of oil!
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james raymond
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10/09/2004 09:07:47
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i will like to a purchase of some piston ring set and will also like to know if you make international shipment to nigeria (23402)please get back to me the price details as soo as possible.Thanks,Mr,James.Raymond.
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Dywayne
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10/18/2004 09:59:24
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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has anyone pulled the 4 speed trany out of the 86 f350 6.9 4x4 and pu tin an AOD or 5 speed tranny??? i would like to upgrade my truck in that matter but dont know what probs i would have if any. please help.
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rowel
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11/24/2004 12:33:11
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i'm looking for information concerning spares for the 6v53 detroit diesel engine used on the 44376 motor life boats.
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LJACHAR
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12/18/2004 20:21:27
| perkins diesel in and 82 chevy
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Does any one have any information on where abouts to get adapter plates for a pekins 354 w\turbo? I'm hoping to replace my blown 6.2L but not sure what kind of tranny i'll have to use for the perkins any info about trannies or bellhousings, or adapters !! Thanks!!
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chuck conner
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12/19/2004 23:42:12
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I want more power in my 85 f350 crewcab duelly and heard that a 3208 cat will do the trick.have you heard of any one doing this and will it pull a 20,000 lbs load in the mountains? what years did they make them and what do I do with the trans. I have a 4.10 posi that I would like to keep but I fear the rpm of the cat wont do the speed limit. any help?CC
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tom upton
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1/02/2005 21:36:33
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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In reply to guy who was unhappy with the power of 4-53 detroit in his ford. Assuming you have n engine ( 4 valve head and 21-1 comp.)try putting bigger injectors in and turning up the rpms. I have been told jimmys will live well up to 3500 rpm. I have a tractor with 453 N70 injectors running around 3100 rpm that I like to think puts out about 140 h.p. and sounds like its got 300!!
If you want more power look at adding turbo That should be good for another 30 or 40 easy.
as far as starting in cold weather I live in area of canada where temp. two weeks ago was minus 32 c
and that detroit would start where lots of others would not! As long as you have the high comp. engine and its not worn out they start amazingly well.
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Randell Dean
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1/16/2005 18:22:26
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can i convert a 7.3 diesal to a boat and if so where can i get the conversion kit
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garrett
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1/17/2005 23:14:33
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I am going to try to convert my 86 ford f350 with a wore out 6.9 dsl. and put a 460 gas in it's place. It is a two wheel drive and a cfive automatic, and the four sixty is out of a 74 mercury and has a csix trans. I plan to switch both the eng.and trans. as a unit.
What special parts will I need to make this work?
THANKS;
GARRETT
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garrett
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1/17/2005 23:16:41
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I am going to try to convert my 86 ford f350 with a wore out 6.9 dsl. and put a 460 gas in it's place. It is a two wheel drive and a cfive automatic, and the four sixty is out of a 74 mercury and has a csix trans. I plan to switch both the eng.and trans. as a unit.
What special parts will I need to make this work?
THANKS;
GARRETT
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Vince
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1/23/2005 22:44:41
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With the new trucks out on the market today, when would the Dodge cummings Turbo Diesel need to be over-hauled. It is a 6cyl diesel. How many miles before this would have to be done? I am looking at purchasing a late 90's early 2000 Dodge Truck but I don't know how to judge the milage on a diesel engine. Any help would be appriciated.
Vince..
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ben kennedy
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2/01/2005 10:47:22
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How dependable is the 6.9 international diesel? Is it the same as the ford 6.9. I have found a truck with 88000 miles and it appears to run good. How much power does the engine deliver. Is it adequate for the international 1600?
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scott
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2/16/2005 00:58:54
| RE: 1986 Ford F350 Diesel Conversion
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I would like to put a cummins 5.9 in my 1977 ford f150, its a short box with a 4.9 and a 5 speed. would i need to so any firewall mods to get this to fit? And would i need heavier springs? how much does a cummins weigh?
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spencer
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2/23/2005 12:12:34
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I want to put a 6.0L powerstroke in my 1995 ford bronco. Is this going to be a rough conversion?? What would i need to do to pull this off??? thanks
Spencer
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Spencer Jones
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2/23/2005 12:16:46
| 1995 ford bronco (conversion to diesel)
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I want to put the new 6.0L powerstroke and 6 speed manual tranny in my bronco. Is this going to be an impossible conversion. Whats will it take to complete this project. Thanks
Spencer Jones
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Patrick
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2/23/2005 22:53:27
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I have a 2001 GMC 2500HD w/ the Allison Automatic. I want to convert it to a Diesel and was thinking about the 6B5.9 Cummins. Has anyone done this or know of a helpful websight besides fordcummins. Is there any other straight 6 Diesels that would be as reliable as the cummins?
Thanks alot
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don
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3/03/2005 14:20:32
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Auto World in Great Falls, Mt is the ONLY real installing shop, the guy in Kalispell is a farce, getting sued all the time, copy cat - dont do it!
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