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dan
12/01/2003 00:53:56 |
Subject: 6.5 chevy deisel
Message: I HAVE BLUE SMOKE ROLLING OUT OF MY 94 CHEVY
6.5 DEISEL. ITS ONLY GOT 80000 MILES. COULD THIS BE A RECALL THING.
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Wood

1/19/2004 23:55:58
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i have a 93 turbo with 133,000 and im in the process of rebuilding the motor. Many of the pistons were very worn, and the crank was cracked. The rings were incinerated on my number 7 and 8 pistons. It was burnin a quart of oil every 20 miles. Damn

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GmDieselTech

1/20/2004 11:59:25
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once the PMD, OPS and cooling issues are addressed the 6.5 is a great engine.
read other 6,5 post and you will see how common pmd problem is, but there is good easy fix, same of the OPS, and on the cooling if the 6.5 is run hot (and most gages read low) the heads crack between the valves, to prevent that i advise the 6.5 water mist injection, it will also help with POWER and MPG.
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Happy Motoring-David
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http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/

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steve Guest 
5/13/2004 13:10:18
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i have 2001 chevy silverado that has had repeated problems with the fuel injectors. Is this a reoccurring problem? It has been back at the dealership so many times now I have lost track and I have spent a great deal of money, i wonder if its time to just trade it in. I am also checking out ford diesels and wonder if they are subject to the same type of reoccuring problem

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jerry Guest 
6/10/2004 11:11:15
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help!!!!!!!!!!!! 1995 6.5 turbo with intermittent miss after heat soak new inj.pump on 6-07 04 installed by dealership under warranty all new electronics on pump from stanadyne .fuel tank removed and cleaned with all lines and filter housing.589.00 waste of my money.problem has been going on since 70000 miles truck has 116000 miles now inj.pump read 1.95 before replacement reads 1.6 now nothing changes on otc genisys when problem occurs.I have relocated fuel pump driver module as far away as factory harness will allow i have also left plastic cover off of top of upper intake per g.m. bulletin.i love this truck but i need it FIXXED!!!!!any help would be greatly appreciated.call collect at 4233678037 ill gladly pay for call. thanks Jerry

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DieselPro Guest 
6/10/2004 11:37:43
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sounds like the PMD is cooked already, relocated? how? on cooler? the fact it is not on the PDC on the firewall you'll have problems...

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Wayne Guest 
6/10/2004 13:26:13
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I have a 1998 6.5 turbo in a gmc 1 ton pickup.After owning the truck for only 3 months,there was blue smoke from the exaust.The mech.at the dealer said it was some kind of a fuel problem but had no clue what it could be.After about 5 months and only 85,000 miles,the oil level started raiseing,and the water level was droping.It doesnt take much of a rocket scientist to know that isnt right.When the motor was taken apart,it was discovered that the block was cracked in the webing in between where the crank bolts up and the cylinders.Of course nobody wants to take responsibility.has anybody ever seen this before,and can anyone tell me what caused it.THANKS

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Ray Guest 
10/24/2004 14:22:43
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I have a 1995 and i wanted to know if i can mount the PMD else where. Truck runs great but stalls and wont start .. By reading you message board i see that seems to be the Problem.. Have one to try but dont want to ruin it.. Help Please. I know they make a kit to relocate but not sure if i can plug the new one in with out mounting it.. Thanks Ray

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GmDieselTech Guest 
10/24/2004 15:22:43
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Ray, you need the remote PDC from www.duramax.bizhosting.com to do this correctly otherwise pmd failure is almost certain.
Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech (Moderator)

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jason Guest 
11/17/2004 11:19:00
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I recently purchased a 94 25000 series chevy 6.5 turbo deisel and it seem to have a miss to the engine. my dad has a 95 chevy 3500 series and after the first year he bought it the truck started to fall apart the fuel pump kept burning up and then the head lights started flickering then burned up the pumps have been replaced at least a dozen times or more.

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GmDieselTech Guest 
11/17/2004 15:30:43
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check battery connections and engine grunds,
and on the injection pump thing the PMD us what fails most of the time, and that is easily fixed for good with the PDC remote kit from www.duramax.bizhosting.com
Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@yahoo.com

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mark Guest 
11/19/2004 12:44:30
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I have 1995 gm 6.5.It is blowing black smoke when you step the throttle down.I got code78,replaced the waste gate solenoid,still get the code and black smoke.Thanks for any help.

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mark Guest 
11/19/2004 13:23:47
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I have 1995 gm 6.5.It is blowing black smoke when you step the throttle down.I got code78,replaced the waste gate solenoid,still get the code and black smoke.Thanks for any help.

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GmDieselTech Guest 
11/20/2004 14:11:13
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check for vaccum at the wastegate actuator hose, if less than 20 inches trace back to find problem.
Happy Motoring-David (Moderator)
GmDieselTech

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chuck Guest 
11/22/2004 23:50:26
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1998 6.5 3500 automatic- just bought it with 123k. Idles fine and powers up fine but seems to cut out while pressing the trottle just slightlty. Replaced the pedal relay(gm garage said too) but still no go. Runs up to 60mph but seems to come off power when you let up a little on the throttle. It runs through the gears at full throttle but down shifts out of OD when you let up on pedal. Seems to have way too much throttle for such a slight pedal depression. GM garage said tranny is fine. Help...

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DieselPro Guest 
11/23/2004 02:42:14
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sounds like classic pmd failure symptoms.
most on this board already know to get the pdc remote kit at www.duramax.bizhosting.com to solve that.
DP

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mark Guest 
11/23/2004 14:01:28
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I have a 1995 6.5 td gmc suburban, cracked heads two years and 45000 miles ago fully rebuilt by dealership. Just recently the engine has started to die with no alerts, sputtering or anything just dead. it seems its probably not getting fuel, any suggestions?

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DieselPro Guest 
11/23/2004 18:31:55
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read my last post, same thing, stalling is the most common of pmd failure signs.
DP

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Jackerussel Guest 
11/23/2004 20:10:57
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I have a 1993 6.5 turbo. Bought it new over 12 years ago. Have used it for heavy duty work ie- pull a Kubota L35 loader backhoe. This truck has never failed to start ( Until this past weekend and after 12 years a lift pump was installed. Hell I just had the first fuel filter changed this past week STG. If you can find a 1993 6.5 with low miles buy it as they are the only ones built with the mechanical style fuel pump system. A far superior and trouble free system. 12 years and only oil changes Beat that Toyota, this truck is used for Work not pleasure!
Happy Thanksgiving To ALL
Jack

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jeff Guest 
11/25/2004 10:49:48
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I have a 1999 3500 savana van 180,000 miles it has run fine but now it will only run untill it gets warmed up then starts missing then stalls out . It will not start and run untill it cools off it is not over heating. It acts like it is out of fuel.

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GmDieselTech Guest 
11/25/2004 13:13:25
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jeff,
Sounds like you have classic PMD failure symptoms;
The PDC Remote kit is the best and only lasting way to fix the PMD failure problem,
it is a remote mounting system complete with new PMD, cooler and a remote harness that allows mounting away from the hot engine, (no cutting, no splicing, it just PLUGS-IN, this is very as NOT to alter the vehicle wiring which would often result in problems on the 6.5)
The PDC Remote kit is very easy to install, and no special tools, no adjustments, no settings and no trip to the dealer, the PDC simply plugs in and you mount it on the firewall.
The PDC (Pump Driver Cooler) is ONLY available from www.duramax.bizhosting.com
PMD failure often results in a stalling condition that can be sudden and very dangerous, and I do not let my loved ones ride in any GM efi 6.5 Diesel vehicle that does not have the PDC Remote kit installed.
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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups ChevyGmcDiesels.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/

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joel johnson Guest 
11/26/2004 11:19:17
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I just bought a 1998 sierra 6.5 turbo it ran great on the highway but now it has intermittant stalling. Diagnostic obd II shows no error codes.
Should pmd failure show up on obd II? The stalls occur during idle or driving.

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GmDieselTech Guest 
11/26/2004 11:58:30
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PMD failure most often does NOT show up on scan tools.

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bill Guest 
12/02/2004 12:22:07
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just wondering how the pmd seems to be the answer for every problem with 6.5 deisel.i have a 96 chev 6.5 that is stalling for past year.i drove it couple months ago on a 3000 mile trip with no problems, got here and it started stalling again,until recently it stalled and wouldnt start for a week.i guess only answer would be a dealership?

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DieselPro Guest 
12/02/2004 15:22:03
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the PMD is the culprit in about 98% or more of 6.5 diesels stalling problems, you already know you need to get the PDC, yet then say your only answer is the dealer, so FYI your posts reads like that of the the TROLL.

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billy orlando Guest 
12/22/2004 17:08:08
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I have a 1998 gmc 1 ton van 6.5 turbo 212,000k miles.It has original injecter pump it has a problem thats been there for over 100k but ill get into that later.Yesterday the water in fuel lite was coming on.This morn it started and ran fine.I thought i'd turn the bleeder on the bottom of fuel filter to bleed out water.BIG MISTAKE it turned real hard some fuel came out i didnt notice any water.When i went to tighten it it was turning real hard when it was all the way tight it was still dripping fuel i started it and after 45 seconds it died .I got new fuel filter put it on and bled air and it still wont start.It appears the lift pump isnt working .I have replaced that twice at 85k and 160k.Is this a coincidence or am i missing something could air in the system damage the lift pump?

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billy orlando Guest 
12/22/2004 17:13:56
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I have a 1998 gmc 1 ton van 6.5 turbo 212,000k miles.It has original injecter pump it has a problem thats been there for over 100k but ill get into that later.Yesterday the water in fuel lite was coming on.This morn it started and ran fine.I thought i'd turn the bleeder on the bottom of fuel filter to bleed out water.BIG MISTAKE it turned real hard some fuel came out i didnt notice any water.When i went to tighten it it was turning real hard when it was all the way tight it was still dripping fuel i started it and after 45 seconds it died .I got new fuel filter put it on and bled air and it still wont start.It appears the lift pump isnt working .I have replaced that twice at 85k and 160k.Is this a coincidence or am i missing something could air in the system damage the lift pump?

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billy orlando Guest 
12/22/2004 17:14:53
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I have a 1998 gmc 1 ton van 6.5 turbo 212,000k miles.It has original injecter pump it has a problem thats been there for over 100k but ill get into that later.Yesterday the water in fuel lite was coming on.This morn it started and ran fine.I thought i'd turn the bleeder on the bottom of fuel filter to bleed out water.BIG MISTAKE it turned real hard some fuel came out i didnt notice any water.When i went to tighten it it was turning real hard when it was all the way tight it was still dripping fuel i started it and after 45 seconds it died .I got new fuel filter put it on and bled air and it still wont start.It appears the lift pump isnt working .I have replaced that twice at 85k and 160k.Is this a coincidence or am i missing something could air in the system damage the lift pump?

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Mike Clark Guest 
12/24/2004 22:35:59
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I have a 1993 Chevy 3500 crew with the 6.5 Turbo.
I have not experienced any problems with this truck until the other day. My daughter was driving my truck and was involved in a bumper bender. The problem is this the bumper bent in and nicked the OIL cooler and it started leaking. Well she drove the truck home not knowing it was leaking oil. Now it will not crank, is the crank, pistons & Cam cooked? Hopefully there is a low oil pressure shut off switch, Please , please ,please. Any help will be appreciated.
Mike Clark

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Mike Clark Guest 
12/24/2004 22:37:27
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I have a 1993 Chevy 3500 crew with the 6.5 Turbo.
I have not experienced any problems with this truck until the other day. My daughter was driving my truck and was involved in a bumper bender. The problem is this the bumper bent in and nicked the OIL cooler and it started leaking. Well she drove the truck home not knowing it was leaking oil. Now it will not crank, is the crank, pistons & Cam cooked? Hopefully there is a low oil pressure shut off switch, Please , please ,please. Any help will be appreciated.
Mike Clark

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Mike Clark Guest 
12/24/2004 22:39:33
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I have a 1993 Chevy 3500 crew with the 6.5 Turbo.
I have not experienced any problems with this truck until the other day. My daughter was driving my truck and was involved in a bumper bender. The problem is this the bumper bent in and nicked the OIL cooler and it started leaking. Well she drove the truck home not knowing it was leaking oil. Now it will not crank, is the crank, pistons & Cam cooked? Hopefully there is a low oil pressure shut off switch, Please , please ,please. Any help will be appreciated.
Mike Clark

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Mike Clark Guest 
12/24/2004 22:40:37
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I have a 1993 Chevy 3500 crew with the 6.5 Turbo.
I have not experienced any problems with this truck until the other day. My daughter was driving my truck and was involved in a bumper bender. The problem is this the bumper bent in and nicked the OIL cooler and it started leaking. Well she drove the truck home not knowing it was leaking oil. Now it will not crank, is the crank, pistons & Cam cooked? Hopefully there is a low oil pressure shut off switch, Please , please ,please. Any help will be appreciated.
Mike Clark

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billy orlando Guest 
12/25/2004 21:38:01
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I have a 1998 savanna 215k I posted a no start problem other day.It was the 3rd lift pump.Its running again but for over 100k it has a throttle peddle like a toggle switch no matter how careful you are on flat hiway you are either gain speed or if you back off the peddle just a little its like you let off completly.It has never stalled ,skipped,or done anything like all the others that post.I have the original injecter pump.What is the big box unit attched to the peddle.Could that be the problem?Does it have a throttle position sensor? And could that be it? I've been to dealers .I give up on them.It has always run perfect other than the toggle switch throttle.

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dieselboy Guest 
12/26/2004 12:00:40
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Change your oil pressure sender, it controls the lift pump. It's a $30 part and should keep you going.

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Jeff Rust Guest 
1/04/2005 22:13:29
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I ordered my 1998 Chevy K2500 new from the factory and just turned 108,000 miles. Religious about changing oil every 2500 miles. The dealer just installed the third fuel injection pump in October. November I started loosing coolant. Early December I noticed it pumping blue smoke. Two dealers later I discovered it was over full of oil. Changed the oil in the morning and thirty miles later had a gallon extra in the crank. Dealer is washing their hands because it's 8000 miles and a year and a half out of warranty. I'm looking at long block (because I don't know if it's head or block). What the heck is going on. I see others with the same problem. Help!!! Dealer wants ten grand to fix it.

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GmDieselTech Guest 
1/04/2005 23:13:47
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Sounds like you have classic PMD failure symptoms;
The PDC Remote kit is the best and only lasting way to fix the PMD failure problem,
it is a remote mounting system complete with new PMD, cooler and a remote harness that allows mounting away from the hot engine, (no cutting, no splicing, it just PLUGS-IN, this is very as NOT to alter the vehicle wiring which would often result in problems on the 6.5)
The PDC Remote kit is very easy to install, and no special tools, no adjustments, no settings and no trip to the dealer, the PDC simply plugs in and you mount it on the firewall.
The PDC (Pump Driver Cooler) is ONLY available from www.duramax.bizhosting.com
PMD failure often results in a stalling condition that can be sudden and very dangerous, and I do not let my loved ones ride in any GM efi 6.5 Diesel vehicle that does not have the PDC Remote kit installed.
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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups ChevyGmcDiesels.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/

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billyo Guest 
1/05/2005 18:51:42
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Chuck my 1998 6.5 does the same thing when on the highway and you back off throttle its like you let off completely.But it doesnt stall it stays running its been doing it for over since 100k it now has 217k. I think the problem is in the throttle.I have given up on dealers.does your truck die or stay running whe you let off?

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Gregg Flowers Guest 
1/13/2005 15:45:59
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I have a 1997 6.5 that has performed great. Never even the stalling problems that I see so often on your site. My problem was an oil leak an the oil cooler line where it had chaffed the metal section at a bracket. The dealership ordered and replaced both oil cooler lines for me on Dec 28th. On Dec 29th, I took off on a trip and after about 300 miles, the upper oil cooler line blew apart at the engine where the line has a 90 degree elbow into a swivel connection into a 1-1/4" nut going to the back of the engine. This happened on the interstate and blew seven quarts of oil out in 30 seconds before I could stop. I got under the truck and pushed the oil line back into the hole. It re-seated and, of course, would not pull back out when the dealer checked it. The truck made it about 60 more miles before it threw a bearing. The dealer is insistant there is no way this line could have blown apart. I was there. Ever heard of this problem before? Any suggestions on additonal info? Thanks.

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Wayne Riley Guest 
2/13/2005 06:16:04
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I have 1999 2500 6.5 deisel turbo that was running fine. I turned it off at work and went to start it twelve hours later and it will turn over but not start. Ive checked fuel supply to the pump and the cut off solenoid aswell and these appear ok. Can the pump module stop the car from actually starting or does this problem sound like the injection pump. There is no fuel getting to the injectors.

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Wayne Riley Guest 
2/13/2005 06:16:46
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I have 1999 2500 6.5 deisel turbo that was running fine. I turned it off at work and went to start it twelve hours later and it will turn over but not start. Ive checked fuel supply to the pump and the cut off solenoid aswell and these appear ok. Can the pump module stop the car from actually starting or does this problem sound like the injection pump. There is no fuel getting to the injectors.

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Chris Guest 
2/15/2005 17:34:33
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Wow guys, don't you read the earlier replies on this site with this kind of problem?! You need the remote PDC!!!! It is almost always the problem!
However I do have a question of my own. I have a 1996 Chevy with the usual leaking oil cooler lines. Anybody know a place that makes a better quality hose? As the factory hoses are junk and will only leak again, not to mention that they are pricey.

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jeff cole Guest 
2/26/2005 13:08:17
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I have a 98 Savanna, was driving on the interstate and the thing stalled out on me and would not start. I sat on the shoulder for about 10-15min and then it started up and I continued on for another 10 and it stalled again. This time it would not start and I had it towed. Back at the house I found that it is pumping fuel from the lift pump but dont know how much(psi). Clueless on where to go next, could this be the PDC problem??? Please help

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