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MARTY B.

3/20/2003
23:10:53
Subject: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1995 Chev. pickup (250) with a 6.5 diesel engine with a turbocharger. Several times it just stalled for no apparent reason; the engine just quit, then it restarts with the key with no problem. Otherwise it runs perfect. It seems as though the fuel is shutting off. Is there a generic problem (maybe a service bulletin) that covers this phenomena. There are quite a few things that can interrupt the fuel process and I don't know where to start.


Lisa Brown

4/30/2003
12:51:57
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I don't know about the diesels, but my Chevy did this just recently, and it was the ignition. Eventually it just died, on the freeway, ugh, so I would check that out as an option before it happens to you. It was $127.95 for us to get it fixed, but again, this was not a diesel.


Auston

5/03/2003
02:47:16
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Your problem is most likely the PMD/fuel injector pump located under the intake manifold. My 6.5 had the same problem and this was the culprit. Hold your shorts though, its expensive.


mark williams

5/11/2003
23:45:56
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 94 6.5 turbo diesel runs great for a time then suddenly just shuts down. The main PCM has been replaced, and the PMD, the APP module on the accellorator has not. The truck has 185000 miles on the pump itself but pump works perfectly until truck just shuts down as if you swithced the ignition off. after some time app. 30 minutes of cooling it restarted, it started,died a few times and ran rough for a couple minutes before it smoothed out and ran perfect. It has done this twice lately. NO codes showed before I replaced the PCM and the PMD. But haven't had them checked since the last two shut downs. SES LIght was on when the engine shut off, but went out as soon as it restarted and smoothed out. Seems as if one of the sensors is getting hot and malfunctioning. Have spent 850 dollars so for on the parts and SCAM Tools. Does any body have a good guess for me.


mark wiliams

5/11/2003
23:55:41
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Marty B.
sounds like you probably need a new PMD or pump driver. Which is located on the pump itself. The rectangular box on the driverside of the pump. Unfortunately it is very diffcult to change out. I recently installed a new one on mine and just remounted it on a metal plate away from the pump. The heat is what gets them. The last one I bought at a chevy dealer was 246.00. GOOD LUCK


Ed Lockard

5/15/2003
10:29:45
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 98 6.5TD would stall as though you turned the key off, but it would start right backup. After several times of this over several months, it just quit. It turned out to be the lift pump. This pump is located below the driver door in the frame. It looks like a filter, but is a lift pump. This pump went bad twice on me. The second pump was under warenty. So keep your receipt!


srcracing

5/17/2003
07:36:49
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I just went through the same problems. Started with a PDM, then had the injecter pump checked, changed the optical sensor on top of the pump, check lift pump, replaced lift pump, still missing, and or shutting off going down highway. No codes. WELL, I just fixed mine!!! The computer harness coming out of the firewall, under the coolant tank, had chaffed on the A/C liquid line and the turbo heat sheild. Soldered the wiring, heat shrunk, and install heat barrier covering and now it runs great!!


Earl Beverly

6/20/2003
06:34:36
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I had the same stall problem and found out it was the solenoid valve that starts and stops the High Pressure Injector Pump. ( This was after Chevy had hooked me up to the computer for analysis at $180.00 hookup fee ). Mine had 92,000 miles on it.


Auston

6/20/2003
10:33:45
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 6.5 diesel check engine light is coming on with trouble code 78 (wastegate solenoid). With scanner hooked up and driving wastegate signal is totally lost going from 70% or so to 00% then after a sec. or two back in business to 70% and engine light goes out. Seems like an elec. open to me. Any suggestions appreciated.


srcracing

6/21/2003
10:06:09
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I would try the MAP sensor on top of the upper intake. It tells the ECU the boost that you have.


Auston

6/24/2003
20:02:28
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Trouble code 78 was caused in my case by the little electrical connector that plugs into the Wastegate Solenoid. With engine running I could wiggle this connector and the solenoid would start and stop vibrating. It vibrates when its working. When it stops vibrating check engine light comes on. I replaced the Solenoid (GM # 1997227) and electrical connector (GM # 12102747) and no check engine light since. Truck is a 94 Chevy 3/4 ton.


Mike

6/25/2003
18:32:20
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1993 6.5 diesel that runs just fine when the weather is cool. Once the weather gets up over about 85-90 degrees, the truck will run fine until you shut it off: then it will frequently not restart until the engine cools down. This usually takes about 30 mins to an hour. Then it starts right up and runs fine. This happens frequently, but not every time. Sometimes it will start up when it's still hot.

It runs ok until you shut it off. No hestitation, roughness or smoke. The mechanic says it needs a new pump & driver .... $2,000. Does this sound like it could be the solution? If a new assembly is put it, won't it just overheat too and I'll have the same problem?



srcracing

6/25/2003
23:26:57
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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It could be the injector pump, BUT, before I'd spend the money, just do a quick check. Put a low pressure fuel gauge on the pump feed line between the fuel filter and the injector pump, and check the lift pump pressure when this no restart happens. If it is below 4 psi it won't work to good... But before you replace the pump, the power for the lift pump, goes through the oil pressure switch, (in- between the fuel filter and injector pump in the valley) Cause that switch can cause a hair pulling, mind bending problem with that lift pump. Took a freind a year to figure that one out... Good Luck


miike

7/04/2003
19:52:28
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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gm has a warranty coverage for the injection pumps on the 6.5s 11 years or 120,000 miles. It covers the electronic injector pumps on the 6.5s. I just bought a 95 and the pump went out just my luck I'm over the mileage limit.


Doug Blank

7/05/2003
18:36:46
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Just put in a new long block on a 96 chevy with the 6.5. Swallowed the #8 piston on old motor with 125,000 miles. Motor runs good, but when pulling our horse trailer the temp rises up to 210 the cooling fan kicks on and everything cools down like its is supposed to. But we have been driving in cool weather and I dont feel the motor should be heating up this much. Im afraid of how hot it mught get when it gets 100 degrees.
I also have a very slight surge at speeds over 70 miles an hour. I have changed the pick-up fuel pump, and we replaced the electronic driver unit on the side of the pump when we built the long block. Any suggestions. Thanks


Al

7/06/2003
13:13:59
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Figure this one out. I replace the PMD with the remote setup and everything seems fine. Then about three weeks later the truck just dies and wontr restart. The SES light stays on. I disconnect the lifter pump and the truck starts right up. So I reconnect the electrical harness and it now runs fine. No codes ever given?


mike c

7/23/2003
08:04:19
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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6.5 turbo stopped while driving. ecm gives code # 88. I don't have this listed in my reference book. the service engine light and the battery light and check guages stay lite when ignition is on (only since the failure) Truck has 250,000 mi on it, I've driven 150,000 of those and this is the first failure like this any thoughts?


Kevin

7/29/2003
02:13:05
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I also have a 1993 6.5. Mine acted exactly as yours, Mike (runs great in cool wx...). I found out that my lift pump was not working. I changed the pump and the relay and still no go. It turned out to be the oil press sensor. It is a safety feature apparently. No oil press, no fuel. No go.
As long as I parked the truck nose down, it would start. Not a good remedy since I live in the praires. It has been working great since, even in 30oC wx.


Todd Smith

7/29/2003
18:49:42
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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that code 88 is your timing for the injection pump is off. my 94 Tahoe had that same code after i replaced the pump so i took it to a guy i knew that was a diesel mech. he said mine was off 3 degree so mark your pump and turn it the thinkness of a dime either way to see if the light goes out. PLUS EVERYONE KNOW THIS CHEVY WARRENTIES THE 6.5 INJECTION PUMP TO 121,000 MILES. i found this out after i had spent the money for a new one.


Brian Thomson

7/30/2003
13:50:10
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 94 ,6.5TD stopped, I changed the lift pump(usualy the problem) then the relay, then the oil prssure switch, It started and ran fine for a few minutes then shut down, Now it starts and shuts down in 30 seconds or so, Any Idea's??


mike

7/31/2003
00:40:51
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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anyone looking for rebuilt electrical injector pump i found a source approximately 575.00 with a 1 year warranty. if you want info E-mail me


dave

8/01/2003
16:40:18
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 98 6.5 and when I go to start it up,it either will not start or red lines???


bernie

8/08/2003
13:10:34
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 95 silverado missed and balked etc. like many posts. At 97,000 I took it to a dealer and they discovered metal filings in the system and fuel filter. Told me the injector pump had " chewed itsself up " and that this was quite common. They flushed my system, installed new lift pump and injector pump , drained and flushed my tank and it now works great. And get this!! I was told GM was aware of this problem and extended the warranty so the repairs were done free. A new injector pump was installed with ceramic innards and the mechanic told me he had installed several on oil well service trucks that have more than 150,000 miles on the pump, Told me the new pump would outlive the truck. Maybe they think I,ll stay with them and replace someday w/ a Duramax. THEY'RE RIGHT!!!


bernie

8/08/2003
13:10:38
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 95 silverado missed and balked etc. like many posts. At 97,000 I took it to a dealer and they discovered metal filings in the system and fuel filter. Told me the injector pump had " chewed itsself up " and that this was quite common. They flushed my system, installed new lift pump and injector pump , drained and flushed my tank and it now works great. And get this!! I was told GM was aware of this problem and extended the warranty so the repairs were done free. A new injector pump was installed with ceramic innards and the mechanic told me he had installed several on oil well service trucks that have more than 150,000 miles on the pump, Told me the new pump would outlive the truck. Maybe they think I,ll stay with them and replace someday w/ a Duramax. THEY'RE RIGHT!!!


wilson

8/10/2003
20:01:05
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


wilson

8/10/2003
20:01:20
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


wilson

8/10/2003
20:01:29
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


wilson

8/10/2003
20:04:46
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


wilson

8/10/2003
20:05:09
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


wilson

8/10/2003
20:08:02
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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this is a good one 1995 6.5 diesel after the truck sits for about 8 to 10 hours and you start it, it will run for about 3- 5 minutes then stall or stumble and run like it's starved for fuel. It will either smooth out or restart with no problems and run fine the rest of the day. This happens every day after the truck has sat for a period of time. I have replaced the pmd, all fuel lines, though it could be the pick up tube in tank, but ruled that out because doesn't matter if full or empty. replaced the fuel pump in the frame rail. Don't think it's the injection pump because it would do it all the time not just in the first few minutes of use. like i said only does this after first few minutes and runs great the rest of the day. Does anyone know if there is a one way check valve in the pick up sending unit in the tank? That's my only though could be bleeding fuel back into the tank, then when it's fired up it sucks the fuel but traps air in the line also and causes problem...help....


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:26
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:32
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:37
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:41
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:45
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:35:49
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Ryan

8/10/2003
23:36:08
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My truck did exactly this, happenedd more and more often, until it finaly became hard to start, then began to run with very little power. I am now replacing the Injector Pump. Sorry...


Kevin911

8/24/2003
23:09:38
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 94 tahoe with a 6.5 in it, the fuel injector pump and driver have been replaced, it still has a problem with stallin like its not gettin fuel, but is very unpredictable when its gonna happen, and when it does it takes a couple of tries to get it started again. So whats left?? im gonna replace the fuel delivery pump and the oil pressure switch tommrow, any other suggestions if this dosent work???


NUN

8/25/2003
16:58:27
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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about 2 years ago my 94 6.5 td was stalling everywhere , one day i looked in the mail box and found a recall on 6.5 turbo diesal ;s , so the next day i went there and they replaced the fuel injector pump witht there new one, also told me it had 11 years 120,000 mile waranty ,,
but guess what driving to day it stalled 2 , so i'm wondering if its that problem again by the way my 94 has 130 ,000 kilometrs


NUN

8/25/2003
16:58:43
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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about 2 years ago my 94 6.5 td was stalling everywhere , one day i looked in the mail box and found a recall on 6.5 turbo diesal ;s , so the next day i went there and they replaced the fuel injector pump witht there new one, also told me it had 11 years 120,000 mile waranty ,,
but guess what driving to day it stalled 2 , so i'm wondering if its that problem again by the way my 94 has 130 ,000 kilometrs


NUN

8/25/2003
16:58:49
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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about 2 years ago my 94 6.5 td was stalling everywhere , one day i looked in the mail box and found a recall on 6.5 turbo diesal ;s , so the next day i went there and they replaced the fuel injector pump witht there new one, also told me it had 11 years 120,000 mile waranty ,,
but guess what driving to day it stalled 2 , so i'm wondering if its that problem again by the way my 94 has 130 ,000 kilometrs


NUN

8/25/2003
16:58:55
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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about 2 years ago my 94 6.5 td was stalling everywhere , one day i looked in the mail box and found a recall on 6.5 turbo diesal ;s , so the next day i went there and they replaced the fuel injector pump witht there new one, also told me it had 11 years 120,000 mile waranty ,,
but guess what driving to day it stalled 2 , so i'm wondering if its that problem again by the way my 94 has 130 ,000 kilometrs


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9/01/2003
08:47:10
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George Vass

9/11/2003
10:30:12
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My 94 K-5 also is starting to stall and not start and dying while idling. 394.000 plus miles.

I do not think it is the injector pump as I have replaced that twice - once at 102,000 and again at 247,000 miles. This does not act like the same problem. The first two times I had a service light and the cruise control would not work.

I have recently replaced the lift pump, fuel filter, air filter, low oil pressure switch to no avail. Just got to keep trying. Runs great on road.


Tim Enloe

9/11/2003
15:02:48
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Do anybody have a picture of the oil pressure sensor installation? I have an oil leak, and figure the sensor is always a potential candidate for the leak...but I can't find it.

Truck is a 93 6.5 TD.


Tim Enloe

9/11/2003
15:03:00
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Do anybody have a picture of the oil pressure sensor installation? I have an oil leak, and figure the sensor is always a potential candidate for the leak...but I can't find it.

Truck is a 93 6.5 TD.


SJS LAND

9/14/2003
21:31:52
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 97 6.5 turbo diesel that recently quit on the highway.I Changed the lift pump, it ran ok for a few days then stalled again. Now, fuel sol. fuse blows when you try to start. changed fuel solenoid on top of injection pump ( $160) Still blows fuse and doesnt start. HELP PLEASE ANY IDEAS????


SJS LAND

9/14/2003
21:31:59
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 97 6.5 turbo diesel that recently quit on the highway.I Changed the lift pump, it ran ok for a few days then stalled again. Now, fuel sol. fuse blows when you try to start. changed fuel solenoid on top of injection pump ( $160) Still blows fuse and doesnt start. HELP PLEASE ANY IDEAS????


CHRIS HARRIS

9/20/2003
03:36:43
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I HAVE A 6.5 TURBO DIESEL THAT THE SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT KEEPS COMING ON.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE ENGINE GOES INTO LIMP MODE UNTIL ENGINE IS SWITCHED OF AND RESTARTED.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE CRUSE CONTROL STOPS WORKING AND ENGINE ONLY PRODUCES ABOUT HALF POWER.I HAVE REPLACED BLACK BOX ON SIDE OF PUMP BUT MADE NO DIFERANCE.SHOWS CODE 35.


CHRIS HARRIS

9/20/2003
03:44:43
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I HAVE A 6.5 TURBO DIESEL THAT THE SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT KEEPS COMING ON.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE ENGINE GOES INTO LIMP MODE UNTIL ENGINE IS SWITCHED OF AND RESTARTED.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE CRUSE CONTROL STOPS WORKING AND ENGINE ONLY PRODUCES ABOUT HALF POWER.I HAVE REPLACED BLACK BOX ON SIDE OF PUMP BUT MADE NO DIFERANCE.SHOWS CODE 35.


CHRIS HARRIS

9/20/2003
03:56:53
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I HAVE A 6.5 TURBO DIESEL THAT THE SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT KEEPS COMING ON.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE ENGINE GOES INTO LIMP MODE UNTIL ENGINE IS SWITCHED OF AND RESTARTED.WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE CRUSE CONTROL STOPS WORKING AND ENGINE ONLY PRODUCES ABOUT HALF POWER.I HAVE REPLACED BLACK BOX ON SIDE OF PUMP BUT MADE NO DIFERANCE.SHOWS CODE 35.


Jesse

9/26/2003
02:27:02
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 95 chevy silverado 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesle, it starts fime but is surging as if its cutting off and on during accelaration and driving at various speeds. As it warms up it slowly stops surging and seems to run fine, until u turn it off for an hour or more and it starts up again. I replaced the injection pump 40,000 miles ago and now has 202,000 miles, It seems to have started after i replaced the westgate valve. Any Answers, jesse


Jesse

9/26/2003
02:27:07
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 95 chevy silverado 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesle, it starts fime but is surging as if its cutting off and on during accelaration and driving at various speeds. As it warms up it slowly stops surging and seems to run fine, until u turn it off for an hour or more and it starts up again. I replaced the injection pump 40,000 miles ago and now has 202,000 miles, It seems to have started after i replaced the westgate valve. Any Answers, jesse


Jesse

9/26/2003
02:27:23
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 95 chevy silverado 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesle, it starts fime but is surging as if its cutting off and on during accelaration and driving at various speeds. As it warms up it slowly stops surging and seems to run fine, until u turn it off for an hour or more and it starts up again. I replaced the injection pump 40,000 miles ago and now has 202,000 miles, It seems to have started after i replaced the westgate valve. Any Answers, jesse


Jesse

9/26/2003
02:27:36
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 95 chevy silverado 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesle, it starts fime but is surging as if its cutting off and on during accelaration and driving at various speeds. As it warms up it slowly stops surging and seems to run fine, until u turn it off for an hour or more and it starts up again. I replaced the injection pump 40,000 miles ago and now has 202,000 miles, It seems to have started after i replaced the westgate valve. Any Answers, jesse


Ed

10/01/2003
02:05:10
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Guys - whats the story here. I am TOTALLY scared to buy a diesel (especially a GM diesel). For sure I'll only buy a truck that uses GAS!!!

Seems like everyone that has ever owned a GM diesel has payed up the ass to barely keep them idling...


Ed

10/01/2003
02:05:19
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Guys - whats the story here. I am TOTALLY scared to buy a diesel (especially a GM diesel). For sure I'll only buy a truck that uses GAS!!!

Seems like everyone that has ever owned a GM diesel has payed up the ass to barely keep them idling...


Ed

10/01/2003
02:05:33
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Guys - whats the story here. I am TOTALLY scared to buy a diesel (especially a GM diesel). For sure I'll only buy a truck that uses GAS!!!

Seems like everyone that has ever owned a GM diesel has payed up the ass to barely keep them idling...


mike conrad

10/06/2003
11:29:41
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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DOES ANY ONE KNOW OF A GOOD TROUBLE SHOOTING REFERENCE PAGE FOR THESE DS4 STANADYNE PUMPS? MINE IS A 6.5TURBO DIESEL IN A 95 CHEVY.
E-MAIL TO mconrad@brooklnypower.ns.ca


Jflabeets

10/06/2003
18:32:28
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1996 6.5TD it's a piece of junk. Bad PMD recently overheated and blew the turbo(loose turbine in the turbo wasn't like that a week ago. I'm not sure if it overheated because of bad fuel mixture but I know it wasn't the cooling system. My question is however can a bad turbo oil seal cause a lot of blue/white or black smoke, or could this be the PMD.
GM told me that the pump was only warrentied for very spacific failures and if it wasn't a warrentied item I would have to pay for service/ testing. I think that all the people that are having these problems should get a permanent fix from the dealer not a shot term bandaid. the only way to get this is if all the owners get together and complain. We are all out a considerable amount of money here right......do we plan on doing this forever, ford and dodge owners don't have this problem, why should we.


Jflabeets

10/06/2003
18:32:39
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1996 6.5TD it's a piece of junk. Bad PMD recently overheated and blew the turbo(loose turbine in the turbo wasn't like that a week ago. I'm not sure if it overheated because of bad fuel mixture but I know it wasn't the cooling system. My question is however can a bad turbo oil seal cause a lot of blue/white or black smoke, or could this be the PMD.
GM told me that the pump was only warrentied for very spacific failures and if it wasn't a warrentied item I would have to pay for service/ testing. I think that all the people that are having these problems should get a permanent fix from the dealer not a shot term bandaid. the only way to get this is if all the owners get together and complain. We are all out a considerable amount of money here right......do we plan on doing this forever, ford and dodge owners don't have this problem, why should we.


Jflabeets

10/06/2003
18:32:46
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 1996 6.5TD it's a piece of junk. Bad PMD recently overheated and blew the turbo(loose turbine in the turbo wasn't like that a week ago. I'm not sure if it overheated because of bad fuel mixture but I know it wasn't the cooling system. My question is however can a bad turbo oil seal cause a lot of blue/white or black smoke, or could this be the PMD.
GM told me that the pump was only warrentied for very spacific failures and if it wasn't a warrentied item I would have to pay for service/ testing. I think that all the people that are having these problems should get a permanent fix from the dealer not a shot term bandaid. the only way to get this is if all the owners get together and complain. We are all out a considerable amount of money here right......do we plan on doing this forever, ford and dodge owners don't have this problem, why should we.


Jflabeets

10/06/2003
18:33:17
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 1996 6.5TD it's a piece of junk. Bad PMD recently overheated and blew the turbo(loose turbine in the turbo wasn't like that a week ago. I'm not sure if it overheated because of bad fuel mixture but I know it wasn't the cooling system. My question is however can a bad turbo oil seal cause a lot of blue/white or black smoke, or could this be the PMD.
GM told me that the pump was only warrentied for very spacific failures and if it wasn't a warrentied item I would have to pay for service/ testing. I think that all the people that are having these problems should get a permanent fix from the dealer not a shot term bandaid. the only way to get this is if all the owners get together and complain. We are all out a considerable amount of money here right......do we plan on doing this forever, ford and dodge owners don't have this problem, why should we.


Anonymous

10/08/2003
22:09:27
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have 97 6.5 diesel and it just quiet and had to be towed home i have changed lift pump replaced injector driver module oil sending unit run fine for one week replaced vaccumm pump then eccerlater started sticking and now its not running at all back to stalling once it cools it runs ok for a few minutes the starts to stall please help sick of this truck


Gary Sisson

10/20/2003
16:16:35
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 94 Sub. with 144,000 on 6.5. Recently it has been stopping dead for no apparent reason.Not hot,not cold...just dies like you shut off key ....PMD? Gary


mpb

10/21/2003
13:15:25
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1999 Suburban and it was stalling out like you shut the key off. It would start right up again and run fine. I lucked out. After searching all the things that would just shut this engine down a started off by replacing the oil pressure sending switch. That did the trick. Hasen't stalled sense. Hope this helps somebody.


mpb

10/21/2003
13:15:36
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1999 Suburban and it was stalling out like you shut the key off. It would start right up again and run fine. I lucked out. After searching all the things that would just shut this engine down a started off by replacing the oil pressure sending switch. That did the trick. Hasen't stalled sense. Hope this helps somebody.


mpb

10/21/2003
13:16:46
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 1999 Suburban and it was stalling out like you shut the key off. It would start right up again and run fine. I lucked out. After searching all the things that would just shut this engine down a started off by replacing the oil pressure sending switch. That did the trick. Hasen't stalled sense. Hope this helps somebody.


mpb

10/21/2003
13:17:02
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 1999 Suburban and it was stalling out like you shut the key off. It would start right up again and run fine. I lucked out. After searching all the things that would just shut this engine down a started off by replacing the oil pressure sending switch. That did the trick. Hasen't stalled sense. Hope this helps somebody.


mpb

10/21/2003
13:17:09
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 1999 Suburban and it was stalling out like you shut the key off. It would start right up again and run fine. I lucked out. After searching all the things that would just shut this engine down a started off by replacing the oil pressure sending switch. That did the trick. Hasen't stalled sense. Hope this helps somebody.


Gary Sisson

10/23/2003
02:04:44
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Thanks for the advice. Ive ordered the switch.I had previously ordered a pmd and remote mount as I was quite sure that was the problem.I live on an Island and it's expensive and time consuming taking it to a dealer or big shop on the mainland. I will install the switch first(where do I look for it on the block?) If that doesnt cure it I will install the pmd kit. Past that I guess I will be taking another day off work and heading to the ferry terminal. On the phone, the dealer said "sounds like the injector pump", But as I said, the vehicle srarts and runs just like new except for random instant shut downs,like you said....like turning off the key....wish me luck. Gary


Gary Sisson

10/23/2003
02:05:21
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Thanks for the advice. Ive ordered the switch.I had previously ordered a pmd and remote mount as I was quite sure that was the problem.I live on an Island and it's expensive and time consuming taking it to a dealer or big shop on the mainland. I will install the switch first(where do I look for it on the block?) If that doesnt cure it I will install the pmd kit. Past that I guess I will be taking another day off work and heading to the ferry terminal. On the phone, the dealer said "sounds like the injector pump", But as I said, the vehicle srarts and runs just like new except for random instant shut downs,like you said....like turning off the key....wish me luck. Gary


Gary Sisson

10/23/2003
02:06:00
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
Thanks for the advice. Ive ordered the switch.I had previously ordered a pmd and remote mount as I was quite sure that was the problem.I live on an Island and it's expensive and time consuming taking it to a dealer or big shop on the mainland. I will install the switch first(where do I look for it on the block?) If that doesnt cure it I will install the pmd kit. Past that I guess I will be taking another day off work and heading to the ferry terminal. On the phone, the dealer said "sounds like the injector pump", But as I said, the vehicle srarts and runs just like new except for random instant shut downs,like you said....like turning off the key....wish me luck. Gary


Kevin Dailey

10/24/2003
12:48:50
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Hi all HELP I have a 95 6.5 chevy 2500 . The
problem is with mine the engine starts runs but
it runs rough on the road it stalls then picks backup then does it all over again . I had to change the vacuum pump do to the bracket being broken. Any help would be nice. KEVIN


Kevin Dailey

10/24/2003
12:49:27
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Hi all HELP I have a 95 6.5 chevy 2500 . The
problem is with mine the engine starts runs but
it runs rough on the road it stalls then picks backup then does it all over again . I had to change the vacuum pump do to the bracket being broken. Any help would be nice. KEVIN


mpb

10/27/2003
20:53:23
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Well I guess I spoke too soon. Yesterday my Suburban started stalling again. I have been trying to think of what can shut this engine down like you turn the key off. And when you start it up it runs fine. I have read this whole forum and nobody has mentioned the theft deterent system on the newer trucks. Can't this shut your engine right off by killing the fuel delivery? I also don't know why my truck ran so good for about three weeks after I changed the oil pressure switch. (I thought I had it) I have had a computer (scanner) attached and have seen nothing unusual while running OR stalling. Any GM diesel mechanics out there? Thanks


Mike B

10/28/2003
10:25:04
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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94 6.5 TD just changed lift pump,runs good awhile,dies,starts back,dies immediately, may run awhile,may not,always starts back,but usually dies before can put in gear.


TONY SANTOS

10/31/2003
18:26:52
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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ALL THESE MESSAGES SOUND SIMILAR TO MINE WHERE IT RUNS LIKE SHIT AND STALLS AT TIMES. REPLACED LINES, LIFTER PUMP, SENDING UNIT, HEAD GASKET (PRESSURE IN COOLING SYSTEM), BLACK BOX ON TOP OF INTAKE, STARTER, BATTERIES, AND STILL FIND IT SUCKS. HAVE FOUND A SUCTION ON THE FUEL CAP AND EVEN REPLACED IT. YOU MIGHT NOTICE AIR IN YOUR SYSTEM TO MAKE IT RUN LIKE ASS. I HAVE BLED THE SYSTEM AT THE FILTER AND RUNS GREAT FOR ABOUT 10 MINS MORE OR LESS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FUEL YOU HAVE IN THE TANK IT SUCKS IN MORE AIR. HOW CAN THE INJECTOR PUMP BE THE PROBLEM IF IT HAPPENS AT THE FUEL FILTER?


TONY SANTOS

10/31/2003
18:27:04
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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ALL THESE MESSAGES SOUND SIMILAR TO MINE WHERE IT RUNS LIKE SHIT AND STALLS AT TIMES. REPLACED LINES, LIFTER PUMP, SENDING UNIT, HEAD GASKET (PRESSURE IN COOLING SYSTEM), BLACK BOX ON TOP OF INTAKE, STARTER, BATTERIES, AND STILL FIND IT SUCKS. HAVE FOUND A SUCTION ON THE FUEL CAP AND EVEN REPLACED IT. YOU MIGHT NOTICE AIR IN YOUR SYSTEM TO MAKE IT RUN LIKE ASS. I HAVE BLED THE SYSTEM AT THE FILTER AND RUNS GREAT FOR ABOUT 10 MINS MORE OR LESS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FUEL YOU HAVE IN THE TANK IT SUCKS IN MORE AIR. HOW CAN THE INJECTOR PUMP BE THE PROBLEM IF IT HAPPENS AT THE FUEL FILTER?


TONY SANTOS

10/31/2003
18:27:19
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
ALL THESE MESSAGES SOUND SIMILAR TO MINE WHERE IT RUNS LIKE SHIT AND STALLS AT TIMES. REPLACED LINES, LIFTER PUMP, SENDING UNIT, HEAD GASKET (PRESSURE IN COOLING SYSTEM), BLACK BOX ON TOP OF INTAKE, STARTER, BATTERIES, AND STILL FIND IT SUCKS. HAVE FOUND A SUCTION ON THE FUEL CAP AND EVEN REPLACED IT. YOU MIGHT NOTICE AIR IN YOUR SYSTEM TO MAKE IT RUN LIKE ASS. I HAVE BLED THE SYSTEM AT THE FILTER AND RUNS GREAT FOR ABOUT 10 MINS MORE OR LESS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FUEL YOU HAVE IN THE TANK IT SUCKS IN MORE AIR. HOW CAN THE INJECTOR PUMP BE THE PROBLEM IF IT HAPPENS AT THE FUEL FILTER?


TONY SANTOS

10/31/2003
21:44:36
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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FOUND MANY OF THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH MY PIECE O JUNK AND REPLACED LINES, SENDING UNIT, STARTER, BATTERIES, GLO PLUGS, VACCUM PUMP, LIFT PUMP, SENSOR ON INTAKE MANIFOLD, FILTER, FUEL CAP, AND LEFT HEAD GASKET DUE TO BLOWBY INTO COOLING SYSTEM. ALL BUT THE INJECTOR (???) FOR COST REASONS. FOUND THAT AIR WAS GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM AND IF I BLED IT AT THE FILTER IT WOULD RUN FINE UNTIL THE AIR WOULD BUILD UP AGAIN AND GET INTO THE INJECTOR. CAN ONLY SEE THE AIR MUST BE GETTING IN BEFORE THE LIFT PUMP AS IT WOULD BE PRESSURIZED AFTER IT. TOOK APART ALL NEW CONNECTIONS AND FOUND SMALL CUT O RING ATCONNECTOR FORM THE LINE THE THE SENDING UNIT (BUT IT WAS NEW!!) STOPPED THE AIR FOR NOW.


e stocker

11/08/2003
22:47:49
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I too have suffered from the infamous pmd woes.
Fortunately this random shut down has not gotten me killed yet. My 95' one ton dually is no go- cart as far as steering is concerned at 20 -30 mph with no asssistance from a stalled engine. I will openly admit that I am a stubborn fool because this has occured to me in excess of 300 times. The point of my rambling is to explain that I have learned this, The pmd on my particular truck has definitely been the culprit every time. I have purchased and relocated the pmd 3 times now. amongst all of that I have learned that over heating of the pmd causes the internal connection at the bouad to become flakey. On most of my stall occasions I simply physically wiggle/pry/stress the male connector of the pmd to put the truck on the road. This very weak band aid only works for so long. Finally I relocated my last ailing pmd to the cab where I leave it under the ac duct. This allowed for days of trouble free service as well as enabling me to stay in the safety of my truck at busy intersections. Alas my third pmd has run its course, I'm sure gm would prefer that we all buy new trucks and I would normally consider this a good option however I am sure that someone somewhere knows the real problem that seams to plague so many of us. I am calling to that person! Save our trucks and thereby your reputation as having the longest lasting trucks on the road and prevent the chevy faithfull from buying elsewhere.


e stocker

11/08/2003
22:48:57
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I too have suffered from the infamous pmd woes.
Fortunately this random shut down has not gotten me killed yet. My 95' one ton dually is no go- cart as far as steering is concerned at 20 -30 mph with no asssistance from a stalled engine. I will openly admit that I am a stubborn fool because this has occured to me in excess of 300 times. The point of my rambling is to explain that I have learned this, The pmd on my particular truck has definitely been the culprit every time. I have purchased and relocated the pmd 3 times now. amongst all of that I have learned that over heating of the pmd causes the internal connection at the bouad to become flakey. On most of my stall occasions I simply physically wiggle/pry/stress the male connector of the pmd to put the truck on the road. This very weak band aid only works for so long. Finally I relocated my last ailing pmd to the cab where I leave it under the ac duct. This allowed for days of trouble free service as well as enabling me to stay in the safety of my truck at busy intersections. Alas my third pmd has run its course, I'm sure gm would prefer that we all buy new trucks and I would normally consider this a good option however I am sure that someone somewhere knows the real problem that seams to plague so many of us. I am calling to that person! Save our trucks and thereby your reputation as having the longest lasting trucks on the road and prevent the chevy faithfull from buying elsewhere.


TONY SANTOS

11/09/2003
08:55:17
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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WHAT HAPPENS NOW AFTER FIXING THE AIR INTAKE PROBLEM, IT'LL RUN FOR 1/2 HR UNDER LOAD GREAT THEN RUNS LIKE MY GRANDMA IS UNDER THE HOOD AND THE ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON AND GIVES OUT NUMEROUS CODES. I READ THAT IT MAY ALSO BE THE OIL PRESSURE SENSOR KICKING OUT THE LIFT PUMP MAKING IT RUN AWEFUL UNTIL I SHUT IT DOWN AND LET IT COOL A BIT. REPLACED THAT AND CODES WERE STILL COMING UP AND WAS ADVISED TO REPLACE THE COMPUTER (PARTIAL REASONING IS A SHORT LAST WINTER SNOW PLOWING AND EVER SINCE THAT IT NEVER REALLY RAN THE BEST) SHORTED OUT COMPUTER ?? i GUESS I'LL TAKE IT OUT FOR ANOTHER RIP WITH A LOAD AND SEE IF IT KICKS OUT AGAIN AFTER 1/2 HR. THE PMD IS THAT THE BLACK BOX ON THE SIDE OF THE INJ. PUMP? I HEARED THAT CAN BE RELOCATED TO THE FIREWALL TO KEEP IT COOLER THAT ON THE INJ. PUMP BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS THING IS 500 $ AND IF I HAVE TO GET AN INJECTOR PUMP, IT'LL HAVE ONE TOO AND YOU CAN'T BUT ONE WITHOUT THE BLACK BOX. YOU JUST SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT.


Gary

11/09/2003
11:16:18
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Go to the Diesel Page www.dieselpage.com They are just GM diesel and have 10,650 paid (20.00) subscribers.. Very good threads on PMD box. A group of highly knowledgible electrical engineers are just getting to the bottom of this ongoing saga. I have had PMD failures and have been reading with great interest. Many good fixes. These tech guys have done lots of research and are now beginning to test on actual failed PMD boxes. They need your failed unit for testing.The findings so far indicate a remote mount is good. I bought a kit for about 375.00 so far so good.....Gary


Gary

11/09/2003
11:16:34
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Go to the Diesel Page www.dieselpage.com They are just GM diesel and have 10,650 paid (20.00) subscribers.. Very good threads on PMD box. A group of highly knowledgible electrical engineers are just getting to the bottom of this ongoing saga. I have had PMD failures and have been reading with great interest. Many good fixes. These tech guys have done lots of research and are now beginning to test on actual failed PMD boxes. They need your failed unit for testing.The findings so far indicate a remote mount is good. I bought a kit for about 375.00 so far so good.....Gary


Gary

11/09/2003
11:16:54
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
Go to the Diesel Page www.dieselpage.com They are just GM diesel and have 10,650 paid (20.00) subscribers.. Very good threads on PMD box. A group of highly knowledgible electrical engineers are just getting to the bottom of this ongoing saga. I have had PMD failures and have been reading with great interest. Many good fixes. These tech guys have done lots of research and are now beginning to test on actual failed PMD boxes. They need your failed unit for testing.The findings so far indicate a remote mount is good. I bought a kit for about 375.00 so far so good.....Gary


Gary

11/09/2003
11:17:15
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
Go to the Diesel Page www.dieselpage.com They are just GM diesel and have 10,650 paid (20.00) subscribers.. Very good threads on PMD box. A group of highly knowledgible electrical engineers are just getting to the bottom of this ongoing saga. I have had PMD failures and have been reading with great interest. Many good fixes. These tech guys have done lots of research and are now beginning to test on actual failed PMD boxes. They need your failed unit for testing.The findings so far indicate a remote mount is good. I bought a kit for about 375.00 so far so good.....Gary


Joe

11/24/2003
13:38:02
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


Joe

11/24/2003
13:38:56
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


Joe

11/24/2003
13:40:25
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


Joe

11/24/2003
13:41:00
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


Joe

11/24/2003
13:56:47
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


Joe

11/24/2003
13:59:24
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I am having the same stalling problem with my 96TD Tahoe. While driving it would start missing. At one point it knocked and pinged for about 5 minutes so I parked the vehicle for a few days. I drove it again and there has been no knocking or pinging since. I could drive it to and from work one day and everything would be okay then the next day it would start to hesitate and at one point stalled on me, but it started back up. It was diagnosed at a Chevy Dealership with error codes P0251, P0370, P1216, and P0236 but they wanted an arm and a leg for replacing the injector pump. I took it to a diesel injecton repair shop and they too confirmed that it had a bad injection pump. But they also added that the wastegate was stuck closed and that the solenoid was okay. Has anyone had the above codes and if fixed will the stalling go away. Any insight on the possible wastegate problem?


jackie

11/25/2003
22:59:25
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie






jackie

11/25/2003
22:59:41
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie






jackie

11/25/2003
22:59:50
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie






jackie

11/25/2003
23:00:37
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie






jackie

11/25/2003
23:01:55
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie






jackie

11/25/2003
23:03:01
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie























jackie

11/25/2003
23:03:11
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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i have a 95 chevy with a 6.5 diesel. it's surging during accelaration it cuts on and off trying to keep the same speed. thanks need help!!!! jackie























eric

12/09/2003
12:03:09
RE: 6.5 diesel engine

Message:
test gm 6.5l diesel engines complete long blocks for $1850 www.65ldiesel.com 718-694-0999 and we buy 6.5l diesel cores


eric

12/09/2003
12:03:26
RE: 6.5 diesel engine

Message:
test gm 6.5l diesel engines complete long blocks for $1850 www.65ldiesel.com 718-694-0999 and we buy 6.5l diesel cores


eric

12/09/2003
12:03:55
RE: 6.5 diesel engine

Message:
test gm 6.5l diesel engines complete long blocks for $1850 www.65ldiesel.com 718-694-0999 and we buy 6.5l diesel cores


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:13:39
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:13:56
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:14:13
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:15:11
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:15:24
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:16:33
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
12:17:26
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
14:09:34
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/13/2003
14:10:06
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
sounds like Eric has some good deals on 6.5s.

the stalling trouble is most likely the the most common part to fail on the 6.5, which is the PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/14/2003
12:26:50
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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Whoa, something is wrong with posting in this topic as it said error each time i tired to post and did not show up, now like 5 posts of mine showed up, my apologies, i see it happended to a few other guys too.


Tony

12/19/2003
19:36:47
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 1995 GMC Suburban with the 6.5 diesel, it started hard and when it was running it would cut out.Did not show any codes, pick up pump, fuel filter, and oil sending unit all replaced.
Decided to drain tank, found all the fuel lines going back to tank along frame rail were almost rusted off, and tank was almost rusted through.
Replaced tank, fuel lines, and brake line along frame rail, so far truck seems to be running alright. Hopefully this will help someone else, I only owned this vehicle a couple months, and already invested almost $ 3000.00 over purchase price.


John

12/26/2003
02:17:47
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 96 dually 6.5 in the morning its a hard start then idels fine when i get upto 2000 rpm the motor stumbles and sometime dies it has 144000 miles it seems to fuel starve please reply


Anthony

12/26/2003
11:21:28
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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PMD is what fails most, the fix is mentioned above in one of gmdieseltech's posts.


Anthony

12/26/2003
11:21:55
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
PMD is what fails most, the fix is mentioned above in one of gmdieseltech's posts.


Anthony

12/26/2003
11:32:36
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
PMD is what fails most, the fix is mentioned above in one of gmdieseltech's posts.


John

12/27/2003
22:45:00
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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I have a 94 6.5 TD and get a code 29. Replaced the MAP sensor and still get the same error code. It seems like the lift pump is running alot. Hard to start and no power , with enough smoke (bluish/white) to fill Marlboro Country! This began while curing a vacuum leak that was causing the waste gate not to function. I miss the black smoke now. New fuel and air filters, replaced intake gasket and am ready to change the lift pump. If I open air bleed on fuel filter with lift pump running it fountains about an inch high. Anyone know if this too little pressure? Also I may have been too aggressive with a concentrated biocide/anti-gel/injector cleaner. But it acts like timing is off or starved for fuel. I love this truck when it's running properly. Thanks!


John

12/27/2003
22:46:20
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
I have a 94 6.5 TD and get a code 29. Replaced the MAP sensor and still get the same error code. It seems like the lift pump is running alot. Hard to start and no power , with enough smoke (bluish/white) to fill Marlboro Country! This began while curing a vacuum leak that was causing the waste gate not to function. I miss the black smoke now. New fuel and air filters, replaced intake gasket and am ready to change the lift pump. If I open air bleed on fuel filter with lift pump running it fountains about an inch high. Anyone know if this too little pressure? Also I may have been too aggressive with a concentrated biocide/anti-gel/injector cleaner. But it acts like timing is off or starved for fuel. I love this truck when it's running properly. Thanks! P.S. If this posts twice it's not my fault!!


GmDieselTech

12/28/2003
11:44:24
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
code 29 is glow plug relay fault...
clear codes and see if it resets.
as for the driveability trouble, the PMD is most likely the problem, it's the most common part to fail on the 6.5, the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


GmDieselTech

12/28/2003
11:44:44
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
code 29 is glow plug relay fault...
clear codes and see if it resets.
as for the driveability trouble, the PMD is most likely the problem, it's the most common part to fail on the 6.5, the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
GmDieselTech@Yahoo.com
Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/


thejyd92

1/08/2004
19:59:16
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

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My '94 6.5L turbo diesel pick-up runs great, but just yesterday I was going down the road and it just surged real hard, just for a split second. But it never died or ran bad after. And this morning it did it again(same) Drove it tonight for 2 hours down the road and it wouldn't do it. All in all it still runs great. Any ideas PLEASE HELP!


thejyd92

1/08/2004
19:59:41
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
My '94 6.5L turbo diesel pick-up runs great, but just yesterday I was going down the road and it just surged real hard, just for a split second. But it never died or ran bad after. And this morning it did it again(same) Drove it tonight for 2 hours down the road and it wouldn't do it. All in all it still runs great. Any ideas PLEASE HELP!


thejyd92

1/08/2004
20:00:42
RE: 6.5 diesel stalls

Message:
My '94 6.5L turbo diesel pick-up runs great, but just yesterday I was going down the road and it just surged real hard, just for a split second. But it never died or ran bad after. And this morning it did it again(same) Drove it tonight for 2 hours down the road and it wouldn't do it. All in all it still runs great. Any ideas PLEASE HELP!


GmDieselTech

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1/08/2004 22:28:49
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the surging trouble is classic symptom of PMD (pump mounted driver aka FSD fuel solenoid driver) the best and only lasting fix is the PDC pump driver cooler from www.duramax.bizhosting.com

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Happy Motoring-David
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Administrator at Yahoo Autos Groups 'ChevyGmcDiesels"
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevygmcdiesels/



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